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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244442214" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244442214">(Jun 30 2021 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="4493">@T-libs</span>! We have a meeting at <time datetime="2021-06-30T18:00:00Z">2021-06-30T20:00:00+02:00</time> <span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span>  Agenda: <a href="https://hackmd.io/ITqOFKnUSY-RLgnqybvFpg">https://hackmd.io/ITqOFKnUSY-RLgnqybvFpg</a>  (feel free to add things)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244446387" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244446387">(Jun 30 2021 at 15:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2645">@T-libs-api</span>! We have a meeting at <time datetime="2021-06-30T19:00:00Z">2021-06-30T21:00:00+02:00</time> <span aria-label="confetti" class="emoji emoji-1f38a" role="img" title="confetti">:confetti:</span> Agenda: <a href="https://hackmd.io/p8p3O641Q9edqyACo5z4dQ">https://hackmd.io/p8p3O641Q9edqyACo5z4dQ</a> (feel free to add things)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244464126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244464126">(Jun 30 2021 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="4493">@T-libs</span> <a href="https://meet.jit.si/rust-libs-meeting-ujepnbwg2lzqgt6wvrndwimi">https://meet.jit.si/rust-libs-meeting-ujepnbwg2lzqgt6wvrndwimi</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244472111" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244472111">(Jun 30 2021 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2645">@T-libs-api</span> <a href="https://meet.jit.si/rust-libs-meeting-crxoz2at8hiccp7b3ixf89qgxfymlbwr">https://meet.jit.si/rust-libs-meeting-crxoz2at8hiccp7b3ixf89qgxfymlbwr</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244472626" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244472626">(Jun 30 2021 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Quick note from the @T-libs meeting: it seems like nobody took the action item to write up the doc-alias policy, unless I missed something. I'd be happy to write that up. Can we figure out the right place to post it? How about a PR to rustc-dev-guide or <a href="https://std-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/">https://std-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244479562" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244479562">(Jun 30 2021 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244480837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yuki Okushi <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244480837">(Jun 30 2021 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="239881">Josh Triplett</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs.2Fmeetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30/near/244472626">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Quick note from the @T-libs meeting: it seems like nobody took the action item to write up the doc-alias policy, unless I missed something. I'd be happy to write that up. Can we figure out the right place to post it? How about a PR to rustc-dev-guide or <a href="https://std-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/">https://std-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/</a> ?</p>
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<p>I think it should go to the std-dev-guide and the rustc-dev-guide could add a link to there.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244485228" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244485228">(Jun 30 2021 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244519742" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244519742">(Jul 01 2021 at 05:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/std-dev-guide/pull/25">https://github.com/rust-lang/std-dev-guide/pull/25</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244520810" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> scottmcm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244520810">(Jul 01 2021 at 05:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>To test out the policy on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/86596">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/86596</a> :</p>
<p>To me, this says that PR should be closed because a related name from another language is not persuasive, especially since <code>array_windows</code> would never have been called <code>adjacent_find</code>, as it's only related, not equivalent.</p>
<p>Is that correct?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244521809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244521809">(Jul 01 2021 at 05:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the latter is more persuasive than the former. If <code>adjacent_find</code> was effectively the same as <code>array_windows</code>, then it'd be reasonable to add, as someone might expect to find it by looking for <code>adjacent_find</code>. But based on your description that it <em>isn't</em> equivalent, I think this fails two related criteria:</p>
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<p>The proposed alias must be a name we would plausibly have used for the declaration.<br>
There must be an obvious single target for the alias that is an <em>exact</em> analogue of the aliased name.</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244521836" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244521836">(Jul 01 2021 at 05:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>In other words, the policy argues that we only add aliases for exact matches, not for "you might be looking for"s.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244522391" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> scottmcm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244522391">(Jul 01 2021 at 06:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>(<a href="https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/algorithm/adjacent_find"><code>adjacent_find</code></a> is more like <code>.windows(2).position(p)</code> -- it returns the iterator where something is found; it's not an adapter.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244522543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244522543">(Jul 01 2021 at 06:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, that doesn't sound like a close match, let alone an exact one.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings%202021-06-30/near/244522909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> scottmcm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/259402-t-libs/meetings/topic/Meetings.202021-06-30.html#244522909">(Jul 01 2021 at 06:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks, Josh!  I've closed that PR.</p>



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